[Odonata-l] Odonata-l Digest, Vol 42, Issue 7
tony gallucci
hurricanetg at hotmail.com
Thu Jul 19 06:43:25 PDT 2007
Here are a couple of references on predation of Odonata that might be of
interest.
Dijkstra, K.-D. B., A. Cordero-Rivera, and J. A. Andres. 2001. Repeated
predation of Odonata by the hornet Vespa crabro (Hymenoptera: Vespidae).
International Journal of Odonatology 4:17-21.
Platt, A. P., and S. J. Harrison. 1995. Robber fly and trout predation on
adult dragonflies (Anisoptera: Aeshnidae) and first records of Aeshna
umbrosa from Wyoming. Entomological News 106:229-236.
I have a note in press (Argia) with photos of Polistes predation on a
Pale-faced Clubskimmer.
tony gallucci
milk river film
ingram, kerr county, texas
hurricanetg at hotmail.com
http://milkriver.blogspot.com
http://youtube.com/milkriverfilm
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1. Re: unusual predation of Cordulia shurtleffi? (Lynn Harper)
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4. Re: unusual predation of Cordulia shurtleffi? (Lynn Harper)
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Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 22:43:37 +0000
From: "Lynn Harper" <harperlynn at msn.com>
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From: Herschel Raney <herschel.raney at conwaycorp.net>
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As far as I know, no spider wasp, or Pompilid, will take a dragon for
any reason. And the large list of Sphecid wasps in the US includes none
that I know of that use dragons for feeding their voracious larva. A
Sphecid species stashing a dragon would be a reportable incident. Unless
it was a show-off Polistes, and even that would be odd, I am not sure
which wasp you might have seen. It is an interesting observation indeed.
If, in fact, it was not a hornet which I think will eat anything. Did
you have any further description of the dragonslayer?
Herschel Raney
Conway AR
Lynn Harper wrote:
>
> In yet another wasp-ode interaction, about 6 weeks ago I was walking
> near a flood control dam in Oxford, MA, when I heard that distinctive
> buzz of captured-dragonfly wings. I tracked down the noise and found
> an Epitheca wrestling on the ground with a much smaller brown wasp
> (possibly a spider-killing wasp, as best as I can identify). I assume
> the wasp had stung the baskettail before I happened on the scene, but
> while I was there, the wasp wrestled with the dragonfly for a minute
> or so, till the ode calmed down somewhat. Then the wasp proceeded to
> neatly chew off the wing bases and abdomen, all in one piece, followed
> by chewing off the head. Finally, the wasp manipulated the thorax for
> ten seconds or so, and then flew off with it. It appeared as though
> the thorax was quite a big load for the wasp.
>
> Utterly fascinating, if a bit on the gruesome side.
>
> Lynn Harper
>
> Athol, MA
>
>
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> From: /"Fred SaintOurs" <fred.saintours at comcast.net>/
> To: /<Odonata-l at listhost.ups.edu>/
> Subject: /Re: [Odonata-l] unusual predation of Cordulia shurtleffi?/
> Date: /Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:22:56 -0400/
>
> A few weeks ago a friend here in eastern MA reported witnessing
> something similar in his back yard. He claims to have watched a
> giant Vespula crabro (a.k.a. the European Hornet) attack and
> consume a bright green dragonfly (likely Erythemis simplicicollis)
> in mid flight. It also seemed only interested in the head and
> flight muscle.
>
> FS
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Kevin Hannah <mailto:kchannah at yahoo.com>
> *To:* Odonata-l at listhost.ups.edu
> <mailto:Odonata-l at listhost.ups.edu>
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 08, 2007 12:02 PM
> *Subject:* [Odonata-l] unusual predation of Cordulia shurtleffi?
>
>
> I witnessed what I thought was quite an unusual predation
> event on a Cordulia shurtleffi this past month. While walking
> along the brushy edge of a forest, I heard a small thump in
> the leaf litter, followed by some buzzing and thrashing. When
> I got closer to investigate, I realized that it was an emerald
> being consumed (alive) by what appeared to be a bald-faced
> wasp (Dolichovespula maculata). I had seen these wasps prey
> on horse flies (Hybomitra spp.) on the wing, but this was the
> first time I had seen this species with such a large and
> difficult prey item. I can only assume that the wasp captured
> the emerald while sunning high up in one of the nearby spruce
> trees. I can't imagine that the wasp would have been capable
> of taking such a large prey item on the wing. The wasp
> consumed the eyes and a portion of the thorax before flying
> off. Not sure how common an event this would be, though an
> exciting one from my standpoint!
>
> Kevin Hannah
> Edmonton, Alberta
>
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From: "Erik Pilgrim" <anisopteran at biology.usu.edu>
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Hi Lynn and everyone,
Interesting story. I just wanted to point out that it probably wasn't a
spider wasp as the adults aren't really known to feed much on solid
food--they tend to drink nectar and/or hemolymph from the wound caused
by paralyzing a spider. More likely that it was a darkly colored paper
wasp (Polistes, maybe fuscata?).
Erik
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In yet another wasp-ode interaction, about 6 weeks ago I was walking
near a flood control dam in Oxford, MA, when I heard that distinctive
buzz of captured-dragonfly wings. I tracked down the noise and found an
Epitheca wrestling on the ground with a much smaller brown wasp
(possibly a spider-killing wasp, as best as I can identify). I assume
the wasp had stung the baskettail before I happened on the scene, but
while I was there, the wasp wrestled with the dragonfly for a minute or
so, till the ode calmed down somewhat. Then the wasp proceeded to
neatly chew off the wing bases and abdomen, all in one piece, followed
by chewing off the head. Finally, the wasp manipulated the thorax for
ten seconds or so, and then flew off with it. It appeared as though the
thorax was quite a big load for the wasp.
Utterly fascinating, if a bit on the gruesome side.
Lynn Harper
Athol, MA
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From: "Fred SaintOurs" <fred.saintours at comcast.net>
To: <Odonata-l at listhost.ups.edu>
Subject: Re: [Odonata-l] unusual predation of Cordulia
shurtleffi?
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:22:56 -0400
A few weeks ago a friend here in eastern MA reported witnessing
something similar in his back yard. He claims to have watched a giant
Vespula crabro (a.k.a. the European Hornet) attack and consume a bright
green dragonfly (likely Erythemis simplicicollis) in mid flight. It also
seemed only interested in the head and flight muscle.
FS
----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Hannah <mailto:kchannah at yahoo.com>
To: Odonata-l at listhost.ups.edu
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 12:02 PM
Subject: [Odonata-l] unusual predation of Cordulia
shurtleffi?
I witnessed what I thought was quite an unusual
predation event on a Cordulia shurtleffi this past month. While walking
along the brushy edge of a forest, I heard a small thump in the leaf
litter, followed by some buzzing and thrashing. When I got closer to
investigate, I realized that it was an emerald being consumed (alive) by
what appeared to be a bald-faced wasp (Dolichovespula maculata). I had
seen these wasps prey on horse flies (Hybomitra spp.) on the wing, but
this was the first time I had seen this species with such a large and
difficult prey item. I can only assume that the wasp captured the
emerald while sunning high up in one of the nearby spruce trees. I
can't imagine that the wasp would have been capable of taking such a
large prey item on the wing. The wasp consumed the eyes and a portion
of the thorax before flying off. Not sure how common an event this
would be, though an exciting one from my standpoint!
Kevin Hannah
Edmonton, Alberta
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Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:42:30 +0000
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